I wish you well, Whitake. It's so awful now, that there is no precentage in it for the juniors to go down any further. If one was looking for a contrarian play he would especially find it now. This is mucho dao contarian. As for the input side I see gold and silver being able to fatten the gross margins. I have a small position in a gold etf that is green. I have thought of buying the Deutche Bank's double long gold etf on the next price dip in August. Best of of luck.